This week’s gospel readings are some of the most challenging words of Jesus. He is revealing things that will happen when people wrestle honestly and truthfully with his teachings and embrace them. His teachings are divisive. They separate us from one another and from culture. Why and why has the church not looked deeply at the implications of this teaching? The second passage challenges us to “interpret the times.” Everyone is trying to interpret the times. Some might want to say we have too many interpretations being floated. All have interesting ideas, but can we use Jesus to help us sort through them and help us find the truths we need to move through our times?